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Old 01-22-2005, 07:08 PM   #1
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Tac ops tweeks?

In the last month I have heard talks in the pubs, irc, and other places of tweeks you can do to the tac ops game that are legal. What are these "Tweeks" and why are they not availiable to everyone?
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:48 PM   #2
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huh except for key bind, i don't see what would be "legal" and that can help you perform better...

i know a good one tho, i paint a little dot with a pen right on the crosshair, you can no scope people so easy
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Old 01-23-2005, 12:12 AM   #3
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What the fuck...mess up your screen and ruin all the fun?

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Old 01-23-2005, 01:07 AM   #4
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there are CS:S tweaks, but i dont know of any TO tweaks that are legal
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:13 AM   #5
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Why would you even CONSIDER using Reefer Madness as one of your names. It just makes people think you are him and will cause you problems.....

The tweak you are probably talking about would probably be the ambient adjustment which I already know that you know about. There are probably alot of other 'tweaks' that you know about and are not about to share.

Ambient 'supposedly' helps the player hear better. I have tried it and it does squat. I am assuming it would however help players who do not have their sound set up correctly.

Ambient is changed by adjustin the Ambient value in your TacticalOps.ini. You CANNOT set it to zero like some people claim they have done because it will actually turn the ambient sounds ALL THE WAY UP or something else funky. If you set it to .1 it will dampen the 'extra' sounds you hear on a map. Like the water in Rapidwaters.... etc. However it will also dampen sounds like the elevator on Trooper which is more of a negative side affect rather than a positive sound affect.

There has been a discussion on 'tweaks' in a dispute and I will quote what I wrote there here.
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You guys seem to be very casual when discussing tweaks.... you might want to keep in mind the following rule... half of the things mentioned are or were .ini tweaks at the time this rule was made.

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7.1 A very general rule of this is that any programs that are separate from the Tactical Ops: Assault on Terror game that change the gameplay of the game, with the exception of soundpacks and voice communication programs, are not allowed and will be considered cheating. Examples of these kinds of programs are aimbots, radar, wall and speed hacks, tauntfiring, lighting exploits (disabling of shadows), cv, lkdown/recoil comp, no LOD, and other programs that give you an advantage over other players.
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Ambient sounds have been left alone by the Admins because some of don't see what difference it makes. In a demo we will hear the same thing anyone who has screwed with their Ambient sounds hears. HOWEVER any TWEAK or ADJUSTMENT you make to your .ini that gives you an unfair advantage over other players IS considered cheating. If it looks like cheating in a demo it will be considered cheating. I don't give a crap if all you did is tweak the hell out of your .ini. If it gives you a completely unfair advantage over another player then you are screwed.........

There have been in the past MANY tweaks that are illegal but TOST has taken care of some of them. There are probably many more tweaks that are illegal that we may or may not ever know about.

Please take this as a warning especially those of you who don't seem to think that 'tweaking' is cheating. In some cases it isn't in others it is......... go ahead tweak the hell out of your .ini..... just plan on getting banned if it makes you look like a cheater.

My advise is to leave your f'n .ini alone and learn how to play the damn game.



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The person who made that rule intentionally added some 'tweaks' that were considered illegal. Lowering Lod bias is a 'tweak' that is illegal. Making it so shadows disappear is a 'tweak' that is illegal. Centerview was a 'tweak' that is illegal. Using settings that allow you to do Centerview is a 'tweak' that is illegal. Clear water was a 'tweak' that is illegal. There have been tweaks that disable smoke grenades that make flash nades no longer effective against the 'tweaker' there have been tweaks that make it so you no longer recoil, there have been tweaks that make it so you can see through walls, there have been tweaks that allowed you to see around corners when you should not have been able to, there have been tweaks to make you almost impossible to hit........ ALL of these things have been TWEAKS. There have been tons of tweaks that are illegal and I am sure there are a bunch that still exist.

Those of the tweaks I am talking about and I am sure there are many more tweaks like that.... probably tweaks that adjust the way you shoot, that lessen the cone fire or who knows what else...... ANYTHING that you do to TWEAK your system that abuses the engine and allows you an unfair advantage will GET YOU BANNED.

I never said anything about YOUR tweaks but if you are doing tweaks that make it so you can cheat the game then you do so at your own risk. If you have found some magical tweak to hear footsteps ALL THE WAY across the map then you are a cheater. If you have found some tweak to make flash nades inefective or not as effective then you are a cheater. If you have found some way to lessen your recoil then you are a cheater. If you have found some way to make it so you run faster then you are a cheater. If you have found some tweak that makes you hard to hit then you are a cheater, if you have found some tweak that makes your enemy easier to see then you are a cheater, if you have found some tweak to lessen damage to you then you are a cheater.

You are talking to me as if I were some idiot who doesn't know what you can and can't do with just tweaking your .ini. I know damn well what has been done in the past to tweak an .ini and they were ONLY TWEAKS NOTHING ELSE BUT THEY WERE STILL CHEATS you idiot.

Like I said before and I will say it again... ANYTHING you tweak in your INI that makes you able to cheat the game and do things that are not intended will get you banned.

So if you think that you can tweak whatever the hell you want in your ini in order to accomplish whatever you feel like then you are sadly mistaken.



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I however was getting concerned because you guys kept talking about tweaking as if ANYTHING you tweaked was legit just as long as it was only an .ini tweak.

That however is FALSE. Sure optimizing is fine. To help your game run better or smoother or whatnot. But when you ABUSE..... note the word ABUSE. If you ABUSE settings and tweak the settings to do things OTHER than to make your game run better then it is CHEATING.

For example. Sinners ONLY changes were those he thought would help him gain an advantage over the other players. He did NOT change ANYTHING to make his game run smoother. On the contrary after looking at his .ini ALL of his settings were on HIGH.... all of the frame killing settings were on and his resolution was higher than you will see most players use. He did NOTHING to optimize his game but ONLY changed settings that were meant to give him an 'edge'. But like I said ambient settings are ignored by the admins for now because the ambient setting doesn't do jack as far as I have seen.

However sinner is on that edge between abusing and optimizing. If he finds more settings that allow him to abuse bugs in the engine he will probably use them because its obvious he doesn't think that you are cheating if you just change .ini settings. From the conversation it seems all of you think that EVERYTHING in the .ini is free game to screw around with.

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Old 01-23-2005, 02:19 AM   #6
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Old 01-23-2005, 12:14 PM   #7
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bhahahaha, lodbias tweak is considered a cheat? How come you didnt catch those with warpix ;/
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Old 01-23-2005, 12:28 PM   #8
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wooooh! thats our dispute
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Well if their illegal why did they win ffs?
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Old 01-23-2005, 01:54 PM   #10
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dont talk slith, you just asked aeriels in irc for the exact same tweaks. and the tweaks he uses arent illegal.
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:40 PM   #11
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just ask haze for his ini thingy
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:57 PM   #12
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don't be proud of yourself nugget and please dont defend the guys that do that..you're better than that...You know full well that most of that stuff is illegal
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Old 01-23-2005, 03:52 PM   #13
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In the last month I have heard talks in the pubs, irc, and other places of tweeks you can do to the tac ops game that are legal. What are these "Tweeks" and why are they not availiable to everyone?



You can't find them anywhere but on cheating forums or asking people for them privately. Why? Because they know it is cheating and are too pussified to balls up and own up.
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Old 01-23-2005, 05:01 PM   #14
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Doesnt setting a negative LOD incease the detail? and Increasing the LOD makes it look like shit? Also ambience can be completely turned off...NVIDIA's beta drivers allow for adjusting the LOD detail at a driver level now thats fuckin neato! And about "a tweak that lessens damage" that is literally impossible. Someone goin crazy on what can and can't be done with an INI.

For kicks here is my sound settings.

[Galaxy.GalaxyAudioSubsystem]
UseDirectSound=True
UseFilter=True
UseSurround=False
UseStereo=True
UseCDMusic=False
UseDigitalMusic=True
UseSpatial=False
UseReverb=True
Use3dHardware=False
LowSoundQuality=False
ReverseStereo=False
Latency=60
OutputRate=44100Hz
EffectsChannels=16
DopplerSpeed=9000.000000
MusicVolume=0
SoundVolume=128
AmbientFactor=0.000000

Only 2 modifications were increasing the outputrate(increases sound quality).
And ambientfactor=0 which does infact work quite well. Ive seen a few people with .1 and .12 didn't really know why but I guess 0 didn't work for them. As for video the only modifications are to increase the quality high res high quality looks hot =P. Maybe rogue should make a "legal tweaks" list instead of trying to put the "if you tweak i will ban you" fear of god into them. Ah I remember these tweaking debats they are sooo old when they were on the TO forums that was some good reading.
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Old 01-23-2005, 05:35 PM   #15
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Yea there is tons of it on those forums
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